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SpringSource Application Platform + Bundle Repository2008-05-06 When SpringSource announced their Application Platform and Bundle Repository I was very excited. I had been informed something was coming and picked up rumors from the grapevine.The bundle repository was in one word: stunning. I had been looking into providing such a service but had decided that I could not afford it, despite the fact that I think that many companies would really benefit from such a service. This bundle repository must have been a terrible job to do. Kudos!The Spring Source Application Platform was, however, a bit of a shock. Looking through the documentation I found lots of headers that felt like OSGi but that I did not recognize: Import-Library, Import-Bundle, Application, etc. It looked like SpringSource had “improved” OSGi extensively. This was a bit of a shock, especially because they looked so much like standard OSGi headers. I learned over the past 10 years that just adding a number of headers that solve a particular problem usually backfires. Something that sounds really good, does not have to be that good at all when you inspect it from a different perspective. The problem with standards is, is that it is very easy to add something but impossible to remove. You really have to get right as much as possible the first time; it is therefore better to err on the side of leaving things out. Due to the embedded origin of OSGi we have always been extremely careful to minimize the number of feature. Each additional feature require a lot of eyes and discussions and a very thorough analysis before it makes into the specification. Especially today, with a mature specification the feature interaction can be quite painful. Do not get me wrong, as a practitioner I do know the importance of getting things to work and standards, by definition, are not always sufficient. I also know that a standardization process feels sometimes excruciatingly slow when you live in the trenches, and I love experiments. However, Eclipse has the same problem, but they have always been a good citizen in this respect. They always added proprietary headers in their own name space, learned from their experiences, and then proposed a new standard. In all cases so far, the specification process was able to make the concept more general and fit better in the overall OSGi model. Having a separate name space was also a convenience for their customers. A specification process will undoubtedly change the semantics, requiring awkward constructs to distinguish between the SpringSource defined meanings and the OSGi defined meanings. I do realize that OSGi does not own the name space in the manifest, and I do regret heavily that we did no better scope our header names, however, this did not seem overly important 10 years ago. Why would the standardized version be better? Because more eyes looked at it, from different perspectives (which sometimes can be quite bad for one's ego). One man's convenience is another man's complexity. This is why so far we have always focused on providing the primitives and not convenience functions because convenience is often in the eye of the beholder and can be provided during the development process in the IDE or run-time libraries. The biggest danger of a standard like OSGi today is feature creep. The leanness of OSGi is one of its main attractions for many newcomers. It really took real hard work and untold man hours to make it this lean, believe me. Maybe the SpringSource headers are a significant improvement over the existing specification, maybe they turn out to be superfluous. Time will tell. I guess it is a sign of becoming more popular that companies try to stretch the specification in their world view. However, I do hope that most developers realize that restricting oneself to the standard may sometimes be a little bit less convenient, but it does provide one with a more options and no vendor lock-in down the line. So sadly, my feelings are mixed. I love what they have done with the bundle repository, and also many parts of the S2AP look very impressive, Neil Bartlett's blog provides an overview that I can very much sympathize with. I know several Spring Sourcerers and they are very clever and capable people. SpringSource undeniably is meaning a lot for the OSGi organization and the adoption of the specifications. However, multiplying bundle headers feels more like coming from an apprentice than from the experts I know them to be. Peter Kriens  P.S. On a more positive note. We are reaching the first deadline for registration of the OSGi Community event in Berlin, June 10-11. I am part of the program committee and I can ensure you that it is worth coming. We actually had to split the second day into two tracks because we had so many good sessions submitted. Looking at the number of submissions it will look like we will sell out the places we have this year. This is the premier OSGi event in Europe, we are really expecting all the key OSGi people to be there. Take advantage of the early registration fee and register today!
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I've also read that the bundles available from the SpringSource repository will only use standard OSGi headers; not the new Import-* headers. This still leaves me a bit confused on how the new Import-* headers are used and where - playing with the Spring app platform will, hopefully, answer those questions.
Kind regards,
Peter Kriens
I actually think we are in violent agreement about many of the points you raise in your post. There seem to be three basic points of confusion/contention about the new manifest headers supported by the SpringSource Application Platform being raised here and elsewhere, namely:
* The fact the we introduced new headers at all
* The fact that Import-Library and Import-Bundle sound similar to existing headers
* The fact that we didn't attempt to standardize these headers before including them in our beta (not a criticism made in your post, but heard elsewhere)
Let me address each of these points in turn, responding to some of your comments as we go.
* The fact that we have introduced new headers (at all)
Peter wrote:
>The Spring Source Application Platform was, however, a bit of a shock. Looking through the documentation I found lots of headers that felt like OSGi but that I did not recognize: Import-Library, Import-Bundle, Application, etc.
The "lots" of headers that you refer to for MANIFEST.MF basically boil down to Import-Library and Import-Bundle (there is no "Application" manifest header).
>It looked like SpringSource had “improved” OSGi extensively.
The important thing to understand about these headers is that they add no new underlying semantics to an OSGi Service Platform, and are essentially just syntactic sugar for a set of Import-Package statements. Any bundle that uses these headers could be deployed on any OSGi R4 compliant Service Platform following a simple mechanistic expansion of the headers into their Import-Package equivalent (more on that later, we'll be shipping the tools to perform exactly this translation). The SpringSource Application Platform uses the OSGi RI (Equinox) unmodified at its core.
>I learned over the past 10 years that just adding a number of headers that solve a particular problem usually backfires. Something that sounds really good, does not have to be that good at all when you inspect it from a different perspective. The problem with standards is, is that it is very easy to add something but impossible to remove. You really have to get right as much as possible the first time; it is therefore better to err on the side of leaving things out.
I completely agree. The key point is, *we haven't changed the standard*! At SpringSource we firmly believe in standardizing solutions that have been proven to work in the field, as opposed to solutions that have not yet been battle hardened. What we have done is added syntactic sugar particular to the SpringSource Application Platform, that if it proves to be successful in the marketplace we would then put forward through the OSGi RFP/RFC process for potential standardization. I agree it would be a mistake to add these headers to the specification now. The specification should err on the side of leaving things out, and only include new features that have proven their worth in the field.
>This is why so far we have always focused on providing the primitives and not convenience functions because convenience is often in the eye of the beholder and can be provided during the development process in the IDE or run-time libraries.
The SpringSource Application Platform is a demonstration of this split you describe working in practice. The OSGi R4 specification defines the primitive (in this case Import-Package) and the SpringSource Application Platform provides two convenience functions on top of that (Import-Package and Import-Bundle). These are supported during the development process (in the Eclipse tools that accompany the Application Platform) and in the runtime libraries that translate the convenience headers into their standard equivalents before deployment into a standard OSGi Service Platform. So once again we find ourselves in agreement.
* The fact that Import-Library and Import-Bundle sound similar to existing headers
>>This was a bit of a s
>I had the same misgivings on reading about the Import-Library and Import-Bundle, but on further reading I had thought these were only syntactic sugar, as they expand to Import-Package under the covers.
That's absolutely correct. They are syntactic sugar and using the tools we will provide any bundle that uses these headers can be easily converted into one that uses only Import-Package with no change in semantics.
>I've also read that the bundles available from the SpringSource repository will only use standard OSGi headers; not the new Import-* headers. This still leaves me a bit confused on how the new Import-* headers are used and where - playing with the Spring app platform will, hopefully, answer those questions.
This is a very good question, and one that deserves a longer answer in a dedicated blog posting of its own (which Glyn Normington has posted on the SpringSource blog). The short answer is that Import-Bundle and Import-Library are intended for use when referring to existing enterprise libraries that a bundle depends on (and not for use for importing e.g. user-defined application bundles). We do this for two reasons: (a) it more naturally expresses the user intention (the statement "my application depends on Spring Framework 2.5.4" is at a higher level of abstraction than 50 or 60 import package statements), and crucially (b) the set of Import-Package statements needed for many enterprise libraries that use load-time weaving, runtime subclass generation and other enterprise tricks is non-obvious to the user (it's not just the set of packages they explicitly depend on in their own code at runtime) and would require a tedious trial-and-error process to get right - and even then it would depend on internal implementation details of the library in question and may change with future versions making the construct fragile.
Although you are right in principle about the Import-* naming, SpringSource should act as a well-behaved OSGi citizen, as Eclipse has done in the past, and chosen a prefix.
I certainly don't believe that S2 has not made a conscious decision that a non-prefixed header serves the corporation better, i.e. accidental lock-ins, since(as you point out) you have chosen the risk of dealing with a very possible problem in the future.
I would urge S2 to make this change (prefix) prior to 1.0-final, to keep its status as one of the most outstanding contributors to OSGi technology. It is not too late.
Good Luck with S2AP (just add the prefix... ;o) )
I too, would urge S2 to add a prefix on their non-standard headers. I read Adrians response, I can see the points in there, and I *still* would like clearly spoken in the header name, that it is S2-specific.
It is not as if it is a new concept, to do this when "enhancing" a spec. It is just plain playing nice. Something S2 has a reputation for (playing nice), and I urge you to keep that reputation.
In short: Add the damned prefix to the non-standard headers! :-)